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s_lalon — Fri, 13 Mar 2009 17:23:26 -0000

Jet Loe and Phil are not different persons.both are same guy.am I correct Jenny?what do you think?

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jettloe — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 18:02:37 -0000

depends ;)

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CDMastering — Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:43:44 -0000

How many weeks would it take to film a typical drama? Not including the pre- and post-production. Just the principle photography.

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FHIQ — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 06:41:10 -0000

I love all the movies very much. I like to read all the previews. Thanks for sharing with us.

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TracyDempsey — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:45:58 -0000

Perhaps.. or perhaps Leviathan Pit would be used. :) But Nolan so far's eschewing the supernatural thing...

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TracyDempsey — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:42:50 -0000

Didn't hear address Dent gave driver (who clearly wasn't to be trusted anyway), just that he was late seeing his girlfriend.. But yes, Batman did clearly say he was going for Rachel, but thought that was a deliberate misleading of Gordon. But couldn't figure out why - so am prepared to believe the switch, which was in keeping with Joker's personality. But am disappointed at idea Batman had gone for Rachel - thought it was a powerful scene 'cos of the sacrifice. And why was switch never told to Harvey? Although of course, Harvey's rage was at Gordon trusting bent cops in the first place... I'm guessing the whole thing was slightly less ambiguous pre-cutting room...

Also, now that I think about it, both times I thought it was strange Bruce said 'did I bring this upon her' as opposed to 'I let her die'. Former makes more sense if he had at least tried to save her, so regret was only in having putting her (and everyone else) at risk by pushing mob to point where they brought in the Joker.

Also, by referring to Dent as 'the best of us', and saying the Joker knew that, after Dent's charged them as responsible for Rachel's death, he could be referring to him going to save Rachel (selfishly) rather than Dent (selflessly) and the Joker having known that's what he'd do.

Hmm. So thought the scene was powerful for his sacrifice; but if he didn't, it was powerful for his humanity/flaws...

So opinion of film unchanged, happily. ;)

P.s. Re. Gyllenhall - her acting at the moment the (two-sided) penny dropped was great. But other than that was disappointed. Don't rate Holmes at all - still see Dawson's Creek every time she does that lopsided-smile-hair-tuck combo, so was delighted to hear Gyllenhaal was replacing her (loved her in Secretary). But too frothy in this. Shame...

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Philemon — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:09:09 -0000

I caught this the second viewing - Joker gives Batman the wrong addresses
for each - then Gordon asks Batman who he's going after..he says "Rachel"...

I think Dent mentions to his driver where he is going -- which I believe is
Rachel's address...? ...because he says he's going to see his girlfriend.

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TracyDempsey — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:48:43 -0000

(Spoiler alert) Hold on a sec.. wasn't aware 'til now of the address switch theory - I thought Batman deliberately went to save Harvey and that was part of the whole sacrifice thing; that he had to act for what was best for Gotham even tho' it meant effectively killing Rachel. I know he said he was going for her, and wasn't sure what was going on there.. but didn't the 250 whatever-it-was-address tally; where Gordon sent the other team, and where Dent asked to meet Gordon? Feck, going to have to watch it a 3rd time! forgot to look out for that scene (and take notes!) on 2nd viewing..

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Philemon — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:35:07 -0000

Ahh - thanx for the Jolie clarification.

Perhaps Maggie's character will appear to Batman like Marlon Brando/Jor-El
to Superman -- speaking to him as a phantom in the Batcave, with just the
giant head of Maggie/Rachel appearing before him?

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TracyDempsey — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 15:26:14 -0000

Well yes, did think we just saw an explosion behind her, didn't see how big it was - thought it would be too much of a stretch for people to swallow but perhaps not...

Jolie rumour was nixed in a few places - she's said she'd like the part, but someone involved in film itself pooh-poohed it I think..

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Philemon — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:02:06 -0000

Hmmmm...that's very interesting.

You know, we never actually (spoilers ahoy) *saw* Rachel die....and if she
perceives that she was slighted by The Batman (who went to save Harvey, even
tho' Joker had switched the addresses and BM actually meant to save
Rachel)....then could be the makings of a future cat-lady?

(correction/edit): Looks like Angelina Jolie may have already signed on for a future Catwoman role...so that nixes my Maggie G. theory.

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studionashvegas — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:43:38 -0000

I haven't seen TDK yet. I guess I'm one of the few, so I'll have to tread these carefully so I don't end up seeing spoilers. Can't wait, though.

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TracyDempsey — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:39:44 -0000

She certainly is! Tho (spoilers ahoy!) heard that Ms Gyllenhaal's signed for 2 films.. not sure how in the divil they'd bring her back tho. There could be a prequel? Ah who knows. :)

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jettloe — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:36:04 -0000

cool!

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jettloe — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:34:33 -0000

Yep!

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Philemon — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 13:20:17 -0000

Good catch on the 'cat' reference...you could be right. Is Eartha Kitt still alive? :)

And for the record, the "official" spoiler alert here at TFT is "spoilers ahoy!"...

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TracyDempsey — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 05:30:03 -0000

...And here's a pic:

http://www.stealthisbrand.blogspot.com/

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TracyDempsey — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 05:25:19 -0000

Imaginarium is also the name of a toy shop in Barcelona, with a kid-sized door as well as the normal one, so that kids have a door that their parents can't use. Very cool. :)

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TracyDempsey — Mon, 04 Aug 2008 05:22:27 -0000

Hmmm.. still getting 'thefilmtalk does not follow you' when I try to dm you!

Feck it - since people are using spoiler alerts - spoiler alert!
Tom Waits thing was spooky alright; watched some YouTube footage after listening - good call. As to China as new superpower - thought that was pretty overt (as were the Guantanamo references); glass buildings are a sign of great wealth - and make for great shatter-y visual affects in action movies. (And glass drawers allow for you seeing objects therein 'activate'. :) )

Chicago architectural boat cruises/walking tours are great, btw!

Gareth said if he was Bush he'd be pleased with the message, but I think it's anti-Bush. Ability to spy on people 'for own safety' was temporary to remove an immediate threat, then sabotaged so as not to be abused in the name of some vague, permanent threat ('war on terror'). Theme of redemption whole way through, and explicit 'who are you to stand as judge/executioner' message, of course, with the ferries. And of course the notion of a true hero sacrificing himself so others don't have to 'go to war' is complete antithesis of the armchair generals ramping up patriotism to get young soldiers to go instead... (And Bill O'Reilly's just popped into my head, dodging Moore's question about 'would he send his son to war'. SJIHBOR. :) )

In short: I freakin' loved it! Twice.

(And am hoping the suit reference 'it should be okay against cats' (however it was worded) - was a bit of foreshadowing for possible follow-up w/Catwoman, rather than just a nod...)

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jettloe — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:17:42 -0000

sorry - thought i was 'following' you in Twitter?? many apologies for any confusion! :)

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TracyDempsey — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 19:46:47 -0000

Jett, you got me to switch over to @thefilmtalk and then didn't follow back - been talking to a brick (glass?) wall..! :)

Don't want to comment here 'cos of spoilers..

(@tracydempsey)

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Philemon — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 22:07:36 -0000

Video comments rock!

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Philemon — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 18:33:41 -0000

What are you implying?

That some of us are not who we purport ourselves to be??

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kiley — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 12:42:04 -0000

whoa..it did seem to put my vid comment above jesse's which apparently happen 19 hours ago at this point....at least according to what my browser is showing...

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kiley — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 12:40:31 -0000

i just woke up....